Monday, August 01, 2005

LMM-6000 Frequently asked questions

LMM-6000 is CerMark's laser marking material for metals.

Q. How do I apply LMM-6000?

We recommend that LMM-6000 be applied by spraying directly onto the substrate to be marked. LMM-6000 can also be applied by brushing or painting, but care must be taken to ensure that an even coat is applied. Any variation in the coating such as brush marks may translate into variation in the final mark appearance. Spraying will give you the best results and the most evenly applied coating.


Q. How much LMM-6000 do I apply?

You should apply only enough LMM-6000 to hide the metal surface. Applying more LMM-6000 will result in having to use more laser power to create marks; it will not make the marks darker.


Q. How do I thin LMM-6000?

LMM-6000 can be thinned with denatured alcohol, ethanol, acetone or methyl ethyl ketone (MEK). Add the thinner to the LMM-6000 and stir or shake thoroughly. Isopropyl alcohol should be avoided.


Q. How much thinner do I need?

LMM-6000 can be used as is for brushing but should be thinned as needed to apply by spray. We recommend a maximum thinning ratio of 1 part LMM-6000 to 1 part ethanol for spraying. Ethanol can also be added to help aid in brushing, it will help brush marks flow out. MEK and acetone are stronger solvents; therefore less thinner will be needed when using these solvents.


Q. How do I clean LMM-6000 off of the metal?

LMM-6000 can be cleaned using plain water.


Q. What metals does LMM-6000 work on?

LMM-6000 has been tested on stainless steel, aluminum, brass, copper, nickel, silver, and titanium. LMM-6000 will not work on metals that have a coating or protective clear lacquer.


Q. How long will the marks last? How tough are they?

Marks made with LMM-6000 are permanent. Marks made with LMM-6000 are generally considered as tough as the metal they are made on. Physical testing has shown them to be resistant to many common strong acids, bases, organic solvents and extreme heat or cold. LMM-6000 also has good salt spray resistance, scratch resistance and QUV resistance.


Q. How high or thick are the marks?

Marks made with LMM-6000 have been examined by a scanning electron microscope and have been found to be approximately 10 microns, or 0.0004 inches (0.4 mil) high.


Q. Can I reuse LMM-6000?

LMM-6000 should not used if it has dried out. LMM-6000 also should not be reused by washing it off of a part and respraying the washed off material. Reused LMM-6000 will not produce a high quality mark. Performance characteristics will also be affected.


Q. What kind of laser do I need?

LMM-6000 can be used with CO2, YAG, or Fiber laser marking systems.


Q. How much power should I use?

The power settings that LMM-6000 will work best at vary depending on the laser being used. For example, with a 35 watt CO2 laser, marking on stainless steel requires the use of 100% power at a write speed of 4-8 inches per second. Marking on aluminum requires 100% power at a write speed of 1-4 inches per second with the same laser. A more powerful laser will be able to make the same mark using less power or writing faster. Also, aluminum, copper, brass and other soft, heat conductive metals require higher powers and slower writing speeds. These metals will conduct heat away from the marking area faster than steel, thus requiring more heat (power) to make a mark. Your power settings will vary depending on the laser used and the substrate being marked, so some experimentation may be necessary to achieve the best mark.


Q. Does LMM-6000 work on glass?

No. LMM-6000 is not to be used on glass surfaces. It is designed to work only on metal surfaces. CerMark also offers the LMC series products for laser marking on glass and ceramic substrates.


Q. Will LMM-6000 work on coated metals?

No. If the metal has a protective coating on it, the coating must be removed before it can be marked. The protective coating will interfere with LMM-6000’s ability to bond to the surface of the metal.


Q. Will LMM-6000 work on anodized metals?

LMM-6000 has generally been found to not work on anodized metals, but in some cases satisfactory results have been reported. We recommend experimentation if possible to determine if LMM-6000 will work in your particular application. The CerMark LMM-12, LMM-6046 and LMM-6018 tape can be used on anodized surfaces.


Q. How many marks can I get from 500 grams of LMM-6000?

When thinned and used as recommended, 500 grams of LMM-6000 should provide approximately 6000 square inches of coverage. The number of marks you can make will depend on the size of the mark and how much material you apply to the substrate.


Q. Can I get blacker marks with a thicker coat of LMM-6000?

No. Additional LMM-6000 film thickness will only result in more power being needed to make a mark; it will not make the marks any darker.


Q. What other colors for metal are currently available?

Currently we only offer a black mark on metal substrates. Research efforts are underway to develop additional colors for metal.


Any other questions, give me a call.....

Sean

(724) 229-5161

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey there,
I have a Trotec speed 2 co2 laser engraver, and i use the lmm-6000 marking paste, i need to kmow why it wont stick on some metals one day and the next day on the same metal it will, also i have the cermark lmm-6018 tape, and it has had nothing but poor results, what settings are needed for this and what else can i do to have it stick on better?

Anonymous said...

10 mm is about 0.4 inches, not 0.0004 inches.


Q. How high or thick are the marks?

Marks made with LMM-6000 have been examined by a scanning electron microscope and have been found to be approximately 10 mm or 0.0004 inches (0.4 mil) high.

Anonymous said...

I'm using a VJ3320 with the LMM-6000 spray. I think more than speed and power the lense used affects the image quality. I can't get any boding with a 125mm FD lens (I have a 2x Beam Expander). I am able to get marks at 80 - 90mm FD.

Also 1 mil = .001 inch so part of previous statment is right. 0.4 mil would = 0.0004" high and would be .01 mm high. I don't buy this statement! Typically if you follow the instructions to get enough coat weight that the material does not show through the image thickness is much higher than that.

Anonymous said...

We have been asked by a marines company to provide stainless steel labels to fishing nets, this will mean they are immersed in salt water for 12 months at a time.

We have found on most websites that the CerMark is resistant to salt water spray but we are just wondering if it will be able to withstand complete immersion?

engraving rookie said...

Yes cermark will be fine for this application once lasered it cannot be removed

Anonymous said...

Hello,
Where is the best place to buy LMM-6000 ?

Thanks Patrick

Dennis Gilmore said...

Hello Patrick,

You can purchase the CerMark material off a number of distributors from around the world. You can also purchase the CerMark product line directly from Ferro who is the manufacturer of the CerMark product line. The Ferro located in Washington, PA offers Technical Service and I'll be happy to assist you with any questions related to the performance of the CerMark product line. Feel free to contact me and I'll locate a distributor near you.

Best Regards,

Dennis Gilmore
Ferro Corporation
Laser Marking Materials
Technical Associate
251 West Wylie Ave.
Washington, PA 15301
Phone: (724) 229-5620
Email: gilmored@ferro.com

Ross Dosan said...
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Ross Dosan said...

Amazing work. laser bonding ink